Path: sn-us!sn-xit-06!sn-xit-08!supernews.com!newsfeed.news2me.com!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!peer2.news.opaltelecom.net!zen.net.uk!130.88.203.18.MISMATCH!peernews.mcc.ac.uk!news.mcc.ac.uk!clerew!clw.cs.man.ac.uk!not-for-mail From: Mark Goodge Newsgroups: uk.net.news.announce,uk.net.news.config,uk.people.bdsm Subject: RESULT: Creation of group 'uk.people.bdsm.creative' FAILS as +12 requirement not met. Followup-To: uk.net.news.config Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 19:09:28 +0100 Message-ID: Sender: Charles Lindsey as Deputy Control Approved: Charles Lindsey as Deputy Control Lines: 178 Xref: sn-us uk.net.news.announce:3286 uk.net.news.config:163888 uk.people.bdsm:84750 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- RESULT: Creation of group 'uk.people.bdsm.creative' FAILS as +12 requirement not met. Summary: Creation of group 'uk.people.bdsm.creative' received 13 votes in favour and 2 against, with 1 abstention. This fails to meet the requirement for a winning margin of 12 or greater. Therefore, the proposal fails. Voting closed at 23:59:59 BST 11 July 2003 Proponent : ^Thunder^ Votetaker: Mark Goodge Distribution: uk.net.news.announce,uk.net.news.config,uk.people.bdsm ====================================================================== The full results follow below in the following order: 1) Information on the ballot 2) Results 3) Individual Vote Details 4) Votetakers Comments 5) Voting and Appeal Information 6) Rationale and Proposal (from the CFV) ====================================================================== INFORMATION ON THE BALLOT Voters were asked to show their preference on a single Yes/No question: Create group 'uk.people.bdsm.creative'? ====================================================================== RESULTS There were 20 vote emails received: 16 Valid and counted votes 4 Invalid votes (all of which were corrected by the voter on the 2nd submission and are included in the counted votes) Of the 16 valid and counted votes received, the preferences were: Yes: 13 No: 2 Abstain: 1 Under the Voting Procedures for the uk.* Hierarchy, a winning option must have at least 12 YES votes more than NO votes. In this case, the winning margin did not reach this number and the proposal therefore fails. ====================================================================== INDIVIDUAL VOTE DETAILS Name Email Vote Andy Davidson andy?nosignal@gro YES arache philip@j@page?btinternet@moc NO calluna{A^} heather@t?lineone@ten YES Caruthers Carstairs-McKraken carstairsmckraken?yahoo@co@ku ABSTAIN Dave J. requiem?freeuk@moc YES humiliation humiliation?slavecamp@zzn@moc YES Ian Jackson ijackson?chiark@greenend@gro@ku YES Lt. Cmdr. Jim ltcmdrjim@hotmail.com YES Paul Harper paul?harper@ten YES Richard Kennaway arke?dircon@co@ku YES robert robertg7?msn@moc YES SandMan sandman?dizzy-queen@moc YES Sswitcher sswitcher?yahoo@moc NO Stephen Harris bdsm?spuddy@gro YES ^Thunder^ Thunder?ukessex@gro@ku YES UrbaneSavage UrbaneSavage?yahoo@moc YES ====================================================================== VOTETAKER'S COMMENTS A pretty simple vote to administer, with no significant issues. More people than usual seemed to have problems understanding the instructions on both the CFV and the ballot paper, but other than that there were no difficulties. ====================================================================== VOTING AND APPEAL INFORMATION This vote was conducted by a neutral third party member of UKVoting. UKVoting is a group of independent votetakers who count votes on behalf of the uk.* hierarchy and other 3rd parties. The rules under which votes for the uk.* hierarchy are taken are posted regularly to uk.net.news.announce or can be found at the following URL: The UKVoting web pages can be found at There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted to uk.net.news.announce. Allegations of irregularity should be sent to control@usenet.org.uk. ====================================================================== (The information in this and the following section is a copy of that provided in the CFV) RATIONALE from the last RFD uk.people.bdsm is a major source of discussion of BDSM topics in the UK but stories and experiences are explicitly forbidden in its charter. A number of people had requested that the charter be amended to allow these but others felt another newsgroup should be formed for this purpose. ============================================================================ CHARTER Contributions and discussion of stories, poetry and fantasies relating to BDSM and s/m including stories and fictional experiences based on actual facts with particular reference to the UK. Anyone posting creative work must be either the original author of the work or have explicit permission to post it (note that "it's from a web page" is not explicit permission). URLs linking to internet sites of original works are permitted. General BDSM & d/s discussion in the UK is more appropriate in uk.people.bdsm whose charter may be found at http://www.usenet.org.uk/uk.people.bdsm.html#uk.people.bdsm No personals are allowed; these should be posted to uk.people.bdsm.personals. Advertising Advertising is forbidden Binaries & Formatting Encoded binaries (e.g. pictures, compressed files, etc.) are forbidden. Such material belongs on a web or FTP site to which a pointer may be posted. Cryptographic signatures (e.g. PGP) may be used where authentication is important and should be as short as possible. Posts must be readable as plain text. HTML, RTF and similarly formatted messages are prohibited. To see how to make some common newsreaders comply with this, read . 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