From: "Chris M. Dickson" Subject: RESULT: uk.culture.* created with Charter B Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:44:36 GMT Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- RESULT OF CALL FOR VOTES ON CREATION OF uk.culture.* HIERARCHY ============================================================== Summary of results: =================== The four options were: create the hierarchy with Charter A create the hierarchy with Charter B Re-Open Discussion Status Quo (no new group) STAGE ONE - Options compared to Status Quo: Charter A preferred to Status Quo by 50 votes to 8 Charter B preferred to Status Quo by 53 votes to 8 Re-Open Discussion preferred to Status Quo by 32 votes to 18 All options beat Status Quo by at least 12 votes and so continue. STAGE TWO - Comparison of the remaining options: Charter B preferred to charter A by 33 votes to 18 Charter B preferred to Re-Open Discussion by 53 votes to 6 Charter A preferred to Re-Open Discussion by 50 votes to 7 Charter B was preferred to all other options, therefore the uk.culture.* hierarchy is created with Charter B and the uk.arts.* hierarchy is removed from the hierarchy charters document. ====================================================================== Voting closed at 23:59:59 GMT on Monday 19th October, 1998. Proponents: $simon$@star-one.org.uk (Simon Gray) amabbett@bham-assist.demon.co.uk (Andy Mabbett) Primary votetaker: chris@dickson.demon.co.uk (Chris M. Dickson) Secondary votetaker: votetaker@chocolate.demon.co.uk (Robbie Irvine) Distribution: uk.net.news.announce,uk.net.news.config ====================================================================== Results ======= The results follow, with the rationale beneath for your information. RAW PREFERENCES GRID A B SQ ROD Charter A: [n/a] [ 18] [ 50] [ 50] Charter B: [ 33] [n/a] [ 53] [ 53] Status Quo: [ 8] [ 8] [n/a] [ 18] Re-Open Discussion: [ 7] [ 6] [ 32] [n/a] In this grid, each number represents the number of votes which were cast that preferred the option named in the number's row to the option appropriate to the number's column. For instance, 33 votes preferred Charter B to Charter A while 6 votes preferred reopening the discussion to Charter B. OPPOSITE COMPARISONS GRID A B SQ ROD Charter A: [n/a] [-15] [ 42] [ 43] Charter B: [ 15] [n/a] [ 45] [ 47] Status Quo: [-42] [-45] [n/a] [-14] Re-Open Discussion: [-43] [-47] [ 14] [n/a] In this grid, each number represents the number of votes which were cast that preferred the option named in the number's row to the option appropriate to the number's column less the number of votes which were cast that preferred the option named in the number's column to the option appropriate to the number's row. For instance, 42 more people preferred Charter A to Status Quo than preferred Status Quo to Charter A. As shown by all the numbers in its row in the lower grid being positive, Charter B was preferred to all other options and hence wins the ballot. Voting Particulars ================== A : vote in favour of Charter A B : vote in favour of Charter B S : vote in favour of Status Quo R : vote in favour of reopening discussion The preference legend is an alternative visual interpretation of each vote; options joined by an = were given equal preference; all items to the left of a > were preferred to all items on the right of it. Voter Name Voter's munged e-mail address A B S R Preference Alan Ford $alan.whirlnet@demon@co@uk$ 2 1 4 3 B > A > R > S Alex D. Baxter $alex.oenone@demon@co@uk$ 1 1 2 3 A = B > S > R Alex Ray $alex@ray.cai@cam@ac@uk$ 1 1 3 2 A = B > R > S Allan ${A}.beetlestone@demon@co@uk$ 2 1 3 B > A > R > S Andrew Hunt $andy.vision25@demon@co@uk$ 1 B > A = S = R Andrew Wineberg $A@Wineberg.BTINTERNET@COM$ 1 2 3 3 A > B > S = R Andy Mabbett $amabbett.bham-assist@demon@co@uk$ 1 2 3 A > B > R > S Annabel Smyth $annabel.amsmyth@demon@co@uk$ 1 2 3 4 A > B > S > R Arwel Parry $arwel.cartref@demon@co@uk$ 1 2 A > B > S = R Charles Bryant $cult@vote@ch.chch@demon@co@uk$ 3 3 1 2 S > R > A = B Charles F Hankel $charles.hankel@net$ * S > A = B = R Charles Lindsey $chl.clw@cs@man@ac@uk$ 3 1 4 2 B > R > A > S Charles McGregor $chic@m.zetnet@co@uk$ 4 3 2 1 R > S > B > A Chris Heathcote $vote.deaddodo@com$ 2 1 4 3 B > A > R > S Christopher Dearlove $chris.mnemosyne@demon@co@uk$ 1 1 3 2 A = B > R > S Claire Speed $c@speed.mcc@ac@uk$ 1 2 4 3 A > B > R > S Colin Cockerill $colinc.btinternet@com$ 2 1 3 4 B > A > S > R Darren Wyn Rees $merlin.netlink@co@uk$ x S > A = B = R Dave Mayall $david@mayall.ukonline@co@uk$ 1 1 3 2 A = B > R > S Dave Sparks $Dave@Sparks.sisyphus@demon@co@uk$ 3 1 2 S > R > B > A David Damerell $damerell.chiark@greenend@org@uk$ 2 1 4 3 B > A > R > S Denis Fuller $denis.chf@softnet@co@uk$ 2 1 4 3 B > A > R > S Devi Jankowicz $anima.devi@demon@co@uk$ 2 1 4 3 B > A > R > S Doug Weller $dweller.ramtops@demon@co@uk$ 1 2 4 3 A > B > R > S Duncan Dewar $duncan.brandane@demon@co@uk$ 2 1 4 3 B > A > R > S Guy Morgan $guy.onelight@demon@co@uk$ 1 2 4 3 A > B > R > S Ian O. Morrison $ian.nmsdoc@demon@co@uk$ 1 2 3 4 A > B > S > R J. Lewis $jeff.rhondda@demon@co@uk$ 2 1 4 3 B > A > R > S James Bellaire $bellaire.iquest@net$ 2 1 4 3 B > A > R > S James Coupe $james.obeah@demon@co@uk$ 1 2 3 3 A > B > R = S Jeremy McNeill $jezza.hotwells@freeserve@co@uk$ 2 1 B > A > S = R Jo Walton $jo.bluejo@demon@co@uk$ 1 2 3 4 A > B > S > R Joe Otten $joe@otten.virgin@net$ 3 3 1 2 S > R > A = B John Robinson $john.thebeard@demon@co@uk$ 1 2 3 4 A > B > S > R Jon Harley $Jon@Harley.warwick@ac@uk$ 2 1 3 4 B > A > S > R Mark Etherington $mark.roxley@demon@co@uk$ 2 1 4 3 B > A > R > S Mark Goodge $mark.good-stuff@co@uk$ 1 2 4 3 A > B > R > S Martin Sach $martins.dircon@co@uk$ 2 1 4 3 B > A > R > S Matthew Winn $matthew.mwinn@powernet@co@uk$ 2 1 3 4 B > A > S > R Mike Fleming $mike.tauzero@demon@co@uk$ 2 1 3 4 B > A > S > R Mike Paley $pmailkee.waverider@co@uk$ 1 1 3 2 A = B > R > S Mike Tan $miketan.duntone@demon@co@uk$ 2 1 B > A > S = R Patrick Herring $ph.anweald@exnet@co@uk$ 1 2 A > B > S = R Paul Bolchover $pb10003.cus@cam@ac@uk$ 2 1 4 3 B > A > R > S Pete Langdale $peterl.doska@i-way@co@uk$ 1 2 4 3 A > B > R > S Peter Dent $p-dent.ti@com$ 2 1 B > A > R = S Peter Moulding $pm.snowflake@demon@co@uk$ 1 4 2 3 A > S > R > B Peter Parry $peter.wppltd@demon@co@uk$ x B > A = R = S Phil Clark $pjclark.enterprise@net$ 1 2 4 3 A > B > R > S Philip Powell $philip.blencathra@demon@co@uk$ 2 1 4 3 B > A > R > S Richard Ashton $richard.corixia@demon@co@uk$ 1 2 4 3 A > B > R > S Richard Daniells $richdan.pncl@co@uk$ 2 1 3 4 B > A > S > R Rick Martin $rick@martin.pixel-group@com$ 1 1 A = B > R = S Robert Williams $bob@williams.drbobw@demon@co@uk$ 2 1 3 B > A > R > S Ron Pople $ron.pople@freeserve@co@uk$ 2 1 4 3 B > A > R > S Sarah Anne Reeson $sarah.simple-signshop@demon@co@uk$ X B > A = R = S Simon Gray $simon.star-one@org@uk$ 1 A > B = R = S Stephen JF Beckwith $sjfb.cirra@com$ 3 1 3 2 B > R > A = S Steve Lewin $slewin.iclretail@com$ 2 1 4 3 B > A > R > S Stuart A Holm $stuart.holm@demon@co@uk$ 2 1 3 4 B > A > S > R Tim Forcer $tmf.ecs@soton@ac@uk$ 3 1 2 4 B > S > A > R tobias erle $vote.kholdan@snafu@de$ 3 3 2 1 R > S > A = B Invalid Votes Tim Sharrock $tjsharrock.iee@org$ No name or address on vote Craig Cockburn $craig.scot@demon@co@uk$ No name or address on vote $npch.tardis@ed@ac@uk$ No name or address on vote Votetakers remark ================= A vote was cast with an imcomplete full name. It was decided that this vote would be accepted because votes from that address had been sent and accepted in the past, with a full name; the surname used in previous instances is also the nodename chosen by the voter. ====================================================================== Rationale and proposed charters from the CFV ============================================ Rationale: There have recently been a number of (pre)rfd's for new newsgroups which have not *really* fitted in to existing hierarchies properly, & at least one of those proposals has fallen by the wayside because of the lack of consensus this has caused. The purpose of this new hierarchy is to provide a potential home for those newsgroups, & anything similar that may come up in the future. *Possible* groups / subhierarchies include: uk.culture.museums uk.culture.art-galleries uk.culture.arts.* (uk.culture(.arts).theatre) (uk.culture(.arts).dance(.ballet|.contemporary|.ice) (uk.culture(.arts).opera) uk.culture.history.* Accordingly, uk.arts.* is to be removed from the uk hierarchy charters document. CHARTER A: This hierarchy is for discussion relating to the appreciation and the production of culture in and of the UK. The term 'culture' includes the knowledge understanding and practice of objects and displays of aesthetic merit (whether 'tangible' or 'performed'), examples and topics of national heritage and history, and also the work of organizations which seek to display and promote such cultural activity. Please note that there may be other more appropriate hierarchies for specific examples of culture, for example uk.media.*, uk.music.*, and uk.rec.*; groups for the discussion of 'lifestyles' or 'sub-cultures' will usually be more appropriately placed in uk.people.* CHARTER B: This hierarchy is for the discussion of all aspects of culture in and of the UK, including its understanding, appreciation, practise and promotion. The term "culture" encompasses customs, activities, objects, performances and displays which have aesthetic merit, or which manifest our heritage and civilisation. It also includes the work of organizations which seek to display and promote all such cultural activities. Please note that there may be other more appropriate hierarchies for specific examples of culture, for example uk.media.*, uk.music.*, and uk.rec.*; groups for the discussion of 'lifestyles' or 'sub-cultures' will usually be more appropriately placed in uk.people.* ====================================================================== This vote was conducted by a neutral third party member of UKVoting. UKVoting is a group of independent votetakers who count votes on CFVs in the uk hierarchy. The rules under which this vote is taken are posted regularly to uk.net.news.announce or can be found at the following URL: ftp://src.doc.ic.ac.uk/usenet/news-info/news.answers/uk/voting The UKVoting web pages can be found at http://www.ukvoting.org.uk/ There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted to uk.net.news.announce. 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